when they hear that information, when you talk about states like texas and talk about florida and you hear these governors saying we're not going to take any of this, and you think oh, my god, if people are screaming that we don't want to pay for people to go to the emergency oms and we want to send this money, you know, that's a windfall for your state and you do not want to help people who make $3200 a year -- >> talking about families of four who make $29,000 a year and ey would get -- the federal government would pick up the tab basically through 2022. >> you're still talking about sm small story, though. compelling but small. the problem for health care vis a vis the democrats is the story is complex and also an abstraction. it doesn't exist yet. the benefits are not ones people know about, that they're receiving, so i think what it really does for the republicans, it fits very nicely into an economic message which is like this is going to be part of the jobs-killing program of the obama administration, this massive tax, this huge bureau a bureaucracy. you look at the aggregate a